Spiritual Truths

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What is Spiritual Truth?

Spiritual Truths

At SBNR.org we monitor the Internet for references to SBNR.org and the phrase “Spiritual But Not Religious”. Periodically, when we find an article about SBNR.org or the SBNR community that is materially incorrect or confusing, I make a comment in an effort to promote misunderstanding.  Typically my posts include four main points:

  1. SBNR.org does not speak for the SBNR community.
  2. SBNR is a lifestyle, not something to join.
  3. There is no single SBNR perspective.
  4. People who are SBNR aren’t categorically anti-religious.

Recently a conservative Catholic blogsite referenced SBNR.org and our statement that “All Religions Contain Some Wisdom but No One Religion Contains All Wisdom.”  I made a comment to that thread and engaged in a discussion of Truth vs. Wisdom.

It is my perspective that Truth is not something to be fully known, but a direction in which humanity travels.  I contend that humanity has an instinctual evolutionary urge toward the Good, True and Beautiful.   Wisdom is our most relevant map for that journey.

Religions are organized around a collection of beliefs concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the Universe and humanity’s place in it.   Religions are generally static.  They believe all that needs to be known has already been revealed.   I am “not religious” because I believe in an open-ended continuing revelation of Spirit that evolves as we evolve….but that’s my personal “spiritual truth”.

Does the term “Spiritual Truths” have a relevant meaning?  If there are such things as spiritual truths, why would they need defending?  What is the difference between the words “wisdom” and “truth” in a practical sense? Does it matter if we disagree on spiritual truth or wisdom? Is it possible for us to believe different truths but still develop a shared morality?

This is our first post to “The Well”.  Here we engage in chewy discussions on deep subjects.  Join in and share your perspective.  The topic of “truth” can quickly become a bland academic philosophical interchange.  Let’s make this a discussion in applied philosophy.  How do you use your understanding of spiritual truth or wisdom to engage in life and to live meaningfully?

Let’s begin!

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34 Responses to “Spiritual Truths”

  1. Eileen
    December 27, 2010 at 5:45 pm #

    I believe that we all search for spiritual truths or wisdom, for we all have a need for meaning in our lives.

    I recently held a forum at my local church where we heard two passionate Moslems tell us about their religion. The thing that I was left with after it all was how regardless of how much we have in common (and there are lots Christians and Moslems share), it is so easy to always look for black and white answers to life’s questions, when the important questions are almost always grey. People belonging to the different world’s religions already have a shared morality up to a point.

    I like to read the different mystics from each religion. When they talk about their deepest experiences they have so much in common, and share such deep wisdom.

    I try to use the age-tested ways of discernment to find the way to live my life. With each different choice I ask the questions:
    Does it bring peace, joy, community? Does it leave me with a sense of love, lightness, hope? Is it bringing life in all its fullness?
    If instead I find myself going round in circles, struggling with despair, darkness or take me away from other people then it is not the way to go.
    This is the best way of applying my inner wisdom to the great questions of life.

    Thank you for the question, and I look forward to reading the response of others.

  2. Chuck Clendenen
    December 27, 2010 at 9:46 pm #

    I believe that relatively few absolutes exist in the universe. I strongly suspect that the natural laws under which the universe operates are absolute and perfect, and I am equally convinced that our understanding of these laws is still imperfect. We keep getting closer, but better measurements and observations keep uncovering flaws in our understanding. I think the same can be said of other absolutes, truths if you will.

    I strongly suspect that great and absolute truths exist, but our imperfect human faculties allow us to glimpse only representations of the truth. What is true is often dependent on context and environment. Such truths may not ring so true under different circumstances or in different cultures. This does not make these truths false, but it does point out the fact that they are not absolute.

    I often hear the term “moral relativism” used as a criticism of those who are not as religious as the person wielding the term. I submit that all morality is relative. What was moral in Bronze Age desert tribes is not moral now. The same applies to truth.

    There well may be spiritual truths, but I don’t believe any culture or religion holds a monopoly on these truths. Virtually all spiritual paths have meditative and contemplative practices that are designed to help practitioners to turn their perception inwards in order to connect with something greater than self. There are many variations on this theme, but there are many common elements to spirituality, whatever the religion or discipline.

    Find what is true for you. If you can accept what someone else tells you is true, then that may be your path. If such a path does not work for you, find one that does. Go with what you discover to be true, and never stop examining that truth critically. If it is really the truth, it will stand up to close examination. If it cannot, it was never really true anyway.

  3. Zym Soljourn
    December 28, 2010 at 4:22 pm #

    Of course there is Truth, our lives would have no Meaning, or Value if there were not Truth to it. The question is more to the like of why is it so difficult for young ppl and some older persons to begin to see the Truths that abounds around them.

    Our ability to perceive the world around us is clouded by many miss-leading concepts these days, more so than ever before in history.

    With the level of intelligence we human have achieved we have also developed greater confusion to the facts, attempting to make every thought more complicated than it need to be.

    I love the old Monk story’s, filled with how easy we miss the simplest of truth around us.

    For example in the Chung-fu TV series, The Shou-lin Monk asked the little boy to close his eyes and name all he could perceive around him… he began to tell of all he had seen before closing his eyes. And after opening them that Monk asked him why he did not notice the grass-hopper near his feet chirping away.

    It is the littlest thing we seem to miss in life even though they are the most abundant.

    True Wisdom is when one can clear the noise in ones mind and begin to perceive all that is around him. Truth is the ability to recognize the Value and Meaning of all that is around him.

    Stay true to The Journey..and Blessing to all

  4. Zym Soljourn
    December 31, 2010 at 7:54 am #

    Do we live in a time where spirituality is marginalized to a standard concept of ordinary experiences that can fit into excepted norms with out challenging those comfort zone to believe that God actually is involved in our life’s and Dynamically aiding us in our growth?

  5. Zym Soljourn
    January 4, 2011 at 5:37 am #

    I wanted to post this for insight full discussion, hope this You-Tube video is ok here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PwNmj5h1zds

  6. Laurie Willow Beacom
    January 5, 2011 at 11:33 am #

    I don’t think there is “Truth”…spiritual or otherwise. I feel that all there is…is personal experiences…”truth” for one person at one time which is subject to change at any time, all the time.

  7. Candy
    January 5, 2011 at 3:55 pm #

    I am new to this website searching for the truth is what led me here. I first want to say I am very much enjoying the posts I’ve read so far. I see I’m not the only one searching for the truth, although I feel I have farther to go than many of you.
    I spent so much of my life feeling guilty because I couldn’t agree with blindly following the word of the Bible and I could never understand why Christian family members and friends told me I was not allowed to question anything I read in it.
    So what I did was put the Bible down and try to ignore the judgements that were quietly pointed in my direction because I wasn’t doing what certain family members felt I should be.
    It was especially hard for me to cope with the fact my Father questioned that my Mother might not make it into Heaven because he wasn’t sure if she had been baptised. I don’t know what happens after death but my Mother was a wonderful person and just because it’s possible a Christian ritual wasn’t performed on her… for my Father to suggest such a thing… to a grieving daughter anyway… was unforgivable.
    Wow, it felt good to get that off my chest. It’s actually the first time I have acknowledged that hurtful memory.
    I am really looking forward to reading more posts and I am working on learning more.
    For now I try to be a good wife, mother, sister, daughter and friend. And I really feel that is the most important thing for me to do while I am on my own road of discovery.

  8. Laurie Willow Beacom
    January 6, 2011 at 11:33 pm #

    {{{{{{Candy}}}}}}

    Welcome to SBNR :)

  9. Zym Soljourn
    January 7, 2011 at 10:18 pm #

    Congratulations Candy for getting that off your chest, i truly believe once we abandon all those spoon-fed concept of Guilt & Shame we will have begun to free the space in our Hearts and Mind so that God,.. or what ever concept works best for each person.. can begin to fill us with insights and clarity of thought.

    Laurie, There has to be some truths, i agree that we do have to go through a moment where our experiential distrust is turns into abandoning every thing So we can clean out all the crap that is getting in the way, but only to that degree,… what come after is the freedom to logically find those experiential truths that are there to be found.

    The Sky is Blue, Grass is Green, and all children, no matter where they are from, Smile and laugh. and every one..unless born with a defective brain, is touched by random acts of kindness, and those that perform them are changed by doing so.

    There are truths, we some time have to wipe our hard drives and start over in-order to find them.

    Stay True To The Journey

  10. Dee
    January 20, 2011 at 6:51 pm #

    Hi, Steve-
    Appreciate what you’re doing and the spirit with which you are engaging in deep questions.
    After being unable to attend church for several years, I started investigating the Baha’i faith. It spoke to me and made so much sense – that there really is only one religion, unfolded through time as mankind is ready to move to the next stage of development,that religions must be the cause of unity, that superstition and ritual have no place, that we are responsible for our own spiritual development and have no need of clergy…and much more. I would encourage you and your readers to investigate!

  11. Sylvan Crofte
    January 26, 2011 at 12:19 am #

    My comment has to do with your message regarding ‘continuing revelation’. Part of the reason I feel that millions of people seek to belong to a religion, is because those same people dont know how to recieve personal spiritual revelation and then they go on to depend upon religion to tell them what God expects and those same religions never actually share with their members how to personally connect to their creator, so that they individually can actually have their own ‘continuing revelation’. For some reason (control of money or both or ???) these spiritual leaders either reserve the right to revelation to themselves, or say that revelation no longer exists. Its all way to clean and tidy. In my opinion, by the way there is only one Law that exists that even God cannot change. the law of choice.

  12. Eric Thomas
    January 29, 2011 at 2:58 pm #

    I believe “Truth” is reality by God’s design and as such is “True” regardless of where one finds it or where one may place it in their life.
    I too “believe in an open-ended continuing revelation of Spirit…” however I don’t believe that revelation “evolves” rather it is the Awareness and understanding of the sincere heart that expands as it, to greater and greater levels, both realizes and embraces Truth.

  13. Name
    February 6, 2011 at 1:42 pm #

    Here is some thing i would like you to thing about before you respond..it is a quote from the Urantia Book

    ———————————————————
    155:5.2 While the religions of the world have a double origin—natural and revelatory—at any one time and among any one people there are to be found three distinct forms of religious devotion. And these three manifestations of the religious urge are:
    155:5.3 1. Primitive religion. The seminatural and instinctive urge to fear mysterious energies and worship superior forces, chiefly a religion of the physical nature, the religion of fear.
    155:5.4 2. The religion of civilization. The advancing religious concepts and practices of the civilizing races—the religion of the mind—the intellectual theology of the authority of established religious tradition.
    155:5.5 3. True religion—the religion of revelation. The revelation of supernatural values, a partial insight into eternal realities, a glimpse of the goodness and beauty of the infinite character of the Father in heaven—the religion of the spirit as demonstrated in human experience.

    155:5.6 The religion of the physical senses and the superstitious fears of natural man, the Master refused to belittle, though he deplored the fact that so much of this primitive form of worship should persist in the religious forms of the more intelligent races of mankind. Jesus made it clear that the great difference between the religion of the mind and the religion of the spirit is that, while the former is upheld by ecclesiastical authority, the latter is wholly based on human experience.

  14. Zym Soljourn
    February 6, 2011 at 1:46 pm #

    I forgot to place my name in the above post.

    155:5.11 The religion of the spirit means effort, struggle, conflict, faith, determination, love, loyalty, and progress. The religion of the mind—the theology of authority—requires little or none of these exertions from its formal believers. Tradition is a safe refuge and an easy path for those fearful and halfhearted souls who instinctively shun the spirit struggles and mental uncertainties associated with those faith voyages of daring adventure out upon the high seas of unexplored truth in search for the farther shores of spiritual realities as they may be discovered by the progressive human mind and experienced by the evolving human soul.

  15. Zym Soljourn
    February 6, 2011 at 1:50 pm #

    I want to add this for thought.. quotes from the Urantia Book
    —————————————————
    155:5.2 While the religions of the world have a double origin—natural and revelatory—at any one time and among any one people there are to be found three distinct forms of religious devotion. And these three manifestations of the religious urge are:
    155:5.3 1. Primitive religion. The semi-natural and instinctive urge to fear mysterious energies and worship superior forces, chiefly a religion of the physical nature, the religion of fear.
    155:5.4 2. The religion of civilization. The advancing religious concepts and practices of the civilizing races—the religion of the mind—the intellectual theology of the authority of established religious tradition.
    155:5.5 3. True religion—the religion of revelation. The revelation of supernatural values, a partial insight into eternal realities, a glimpse of the goodness and beauty of the infinite character of the Father in heaven—the religion of the spirit as demonstrated in human experience.

    155:5.6 The religion of the physical senses and the superstitious fears of natural man, the Master refused to belittle, though he deplored the fact that so much of this primitive form of worship should persist in the religious forms of the more intelligent races of mankind. Jesus made it clear that the great difference between the religion of the mind and the religion of the spirit is that, while the former is upheld by ecclesiastical authority, the latter is wholly based on human experience.

  16. Greg Kells
    March 17, 2011 at 3:27 pm #

    I was attempting to answer the question “what is the difference between spirituality and religion?” when i cam across your site. I read (briefly) your take on the matter. I stand by my original answer. Religion is spirituality, and vice versa. Asking the difference is like asking the difference between music and blues. There simply is no such thing as spiritual but not religious. The words are interchangeable. All religions are an attempt to understand and define spiritual beliefs. Simply having spiritual beliefs leads one to define them. Admitting that you don’t have all the answers, while a step ahead of most religions, doesn’t exclude you from that classification. SBNR is a religious belief. By calling yourself SBNR you express a shared belief, though not organized, in a higher power. You are simply travelling a broader path to the same destination. I applaud your attempt to remove the dogma associated with religion, but be wary of replacing it with your own (i.e. SBNR, “spiritual truth” etc.)

  17. Steve Frazee
    March 17, 2011 at 3:53 pm #

    Hi Greg!

    Thank you for visiting our site.

    We disagree that religion and spirituality are interchangeable.

    It is our perspective that spirituality is superset of religion. Religion in any one form is a practice of spirituality, but no one religion comprises all spiritual possibilities. Spirituality is to cuisines as Religion is to Mexican food. Spirituality is a broader category.

    This is not to say that there is anything wrong with religion. Focusing on a single religious or spiritual practice is a path that has been shown to be transformative throughout history. Yet we also know that a life spent studying multiple religious perspectives can be equally enriching.

    There is no one SBNR perspective. Each SBNR person experiences spirituality in their own way and that often means that beliefs differ among SBNR people.

    We are not worried that the SBNR movement will become a religion. On the other hand, if loving people and respective their individual spiritual path becomes common place, we will be OK with that. :)

  18. Al sylvester
    March 25, 2011 at 9:34 pm #

    Perhaps I have found a home! I have studied Alchemy now for 38 years. I found the basis for all our present religions. My site will cover many of the things I have to talk about, but basically- The ancients studied nature. they found a process to perfect matter. They believed it proved God in nature. That process became the religion of Isis and Osiris. In time it became Christianity. The basis of the process is what we know of as Genesis. Genesis is about the yearly cycle. All you know about religion, death, resurrection, Virgin Birth, Astrology, Spirit, soul, Yes, Jesus, all is from and about this process. It is based on an egg, a glass pyramid oven, and 16 months of work outside. There is hundreds of things tied to it in Gerald Masseys books, in Sir Wallace Budges books, and basically anything ancient. All past religions can be tied to this process. Astrology is from this process. There is just too much to put in a single post.
    Why I am here. Several reasons. I am not a writer or speaker. I was in power Eng. I wrote my book to have some coverage and legal copyright. I was also in Nuclear Power so have had a lot of in depth teachings! My work is the past reveled you might say. Your heritage.It is information all should know. Most that I have tried to talk to do not really want to know of it as it proves many things, most detrimental to religion. It is all about the ‘Hidden alchemy.” why it was hidden was because it was about religion. It is why there were alchemists, and Secret Societies.
    why I am here, I think those other here would like to know of my work and the explanation that has given us Cristianity! Actually, when you know, all of our todays religions are from this process. All is from a process of nature. If there is a God, he is found through nature and Sacred Geometry. There is order in nature, but not a God you can know much about except what you find there. It is very interesting, and explains so many things and mysteries that it is almost hard to believe.
    Why I am here. I want to know the right way to present the many things that are needed to be explained. I Never lie, and all i have said I can prove many ways.
    Al Sylvester, alcinsyl@aol.com The first Mythology.

    P.S. Im not here to advertise my book if that is a problem

  19. Sylvan
    March 26, 2011 at 10:55 pm #

    To Greg:
    I agree with Steve’s comment to you somewhat. If you had taken the time to review some of the various comments on this site, you would quickly learn of how undefined ‘SBNR’ is. The reason for that is beacuse in my experience, my spiritual connection to the Univers (God) is unique to me. And the resulting ‘destiny’ or experiences are mine only, therefore I cannot (willnot) write a book attempting to convince you that my way is the only way. That is what religion(s) do. That is how they finance their operations. As I connect to my creator, He, she , it… will tell me only what is true for me in my own path. I do not recieve information for you or anyone else. You are entitled to your opinion, and you can do what you please with it. I know what my connection is and I am entitled to my own personal experiences. It is my experiences with the various aspects of this life which I intend to share with anyone who wants to listen.

  20. Vijay
    June 3, 2011 at 1:02 pm #

    Lead Us From the Unreal To the Real,
    Lead Us From Darkness To Light,
    Lead Us From Death To Immortality,
    OM (the universal sound of God)
    Let There Be Peace Peace Peace. – Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 1.3.28

    That which leads us towards truth is truth.

    Aham Brahmasmi – I am Brahma is the ultimate reality and ultimate truth

    “Thou art that” – We are all the same at the core fed by the same universal conciousness

  21. Josh
    December 13, 2011 at 4:46 pm #

    Hello Steve,

    This is an old post but rather interesting nonetheless. You seem to employ some fairly remarkable linguistic hair-splitting, do you not? “What is the difference between the words “wisdom” and “truth” in a practical sense?” It seems to me, correct me if I’m wrong, that you are, intentionally or unintentionally, using sophistic word-games to justify proclivities.

    The difference between “wisdom and truth in a practical sense” is known to all. Let’s take a look at something obvious: It’s a “plausible truth” that if you stand in front of a speeding train you are going to die; however, history has proven this “plausible truth” to be fact. There is no more need for discussion. So where does “wisdom” come in? Wisdom is to know “truth” and apply it: It’s true that standing in front of a fast-moving train will end one’s life, thus it is “wise” not to stand in front of a train. That’s obvious.

    I think the difference lies in a different area. You know what I said is true; but you’ll disagree on the after-life. A child that has only had the threat of his father’s punishment may not think it is real, or come up with all kinds of clever arguments to justify his desires (maybe even this one: “I can’t even know if I have a dad)… but punishment for disobedience is coming whether this disobedient son wants to know it or not.

    Next, you said, “Religions are generally static. They believe all that needs to be known has already been revealed.” This is provably false. Just to give one quick example, even Mohammed, the “greatest prophet,” had no idea if he was going to “make it to paradise.” And there are plenty more. I think you specifically had Christianity in mind when made that statement.

    Lastly, I thank you for not confusing Catholicism with Christianity as the two are light-years apart. Well, there’s my input. Thanks for ‘listening.’

  22. Steve Frazee
    December 28, 2011 at 3:03 pm #

    Hi Josh,

    Thank you for your comments.

    In regards to truth and wisdom, I find from studying philosophy that there exists a distinct difference between objective truth and subjective truth. In the context of these discussions the word ‘truth’ is typically references an objective truth. Wisdom on the other hand is typically referenced as personal or cultural.

    The issue of subjective versus objective truth when discussing the nature of reality make for thick philosophical weeds that quickly mire good conversation. Thus, I prefer the word ‘wisdom’ to signify obtained knowledge and experience, by and individual or group, as opposed to ‘truth’.

    Hope that helps!

  23. Dave W
    March 25, 2012 at 3:08 pm #

    Personally, I argue that many SBNR approaches are an endangerment of the very idea of truth..

    While we may only have subjective access to the truth on a topic, that does not mean that all accounts regarding the topic/object-of-enquiry are equally valid / accord to same extent with what an objective account would look like…

    Often the SBNR approach looks to argue that all religions coalesce around a mystical truth which validates all religious experience – irrespective of the details of these experience-claims. Is there not a danger that we lose the vital conflict at the heart of the idea of what truth is – if we cede truth to mere post-modern subjective opinion?

  24. God the father
    March 29, 2012 at 9:01 pm #

    If you know God exists then you must believe in Spiritual truth. God will reveal these truths to you through the Holy Spirit. All you have go do is ask. God is real all you need to do is find a way to have a relationship with him.

  25. Rick Willey
    April 12, 2012 at 9:04 pm #

    I’m new here & found this site by entering spiritual truth into Google
    I’ve studied many religious path searching for this illusory “TRUTH”. And while I am BY NO MEANS a scholar, one fact seems to run through every religious teachings….LOVE ALL THAT IS. But to love all that is, we must first love ourselves
    Another thread I continuously find is “be still & know GOD”
    So my spiritual journey involves self awareness. I try to get inside myself and ask tough questions such as ” what is it about this person or that that I like or dislike that has a lesson for me” in other words, if I like you what is it that I like & what does it say about me? And the same if I dislike someone. What is thier gift?
    I recently found a u tube video that explains this very well. By Gregg Braden called the 7 Eseene mirrors. You can view it here
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsGl-XIWM5Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    I think the whole reason we are in this physical realm is to experience and over come contrasts. The better we become at mastering the contrasts the closer to truth ( GOD ) We become. The movie “THE MATRIX” Illustrates this beautifully!
    To ask what is truth is a lot like asking how many licks to the center of a tootsie pop. To many flavors and people licking to have one answer! It’s not the destination but the journey that is important!

  26. Merlin Bird
    October 8, 2012 at 1:36 pm #

    If you are value-driven and have understanding concepts, you are religious with or without affiliation with a group: saying you are “spiritual but not religious” is a cop-out, a coward’s way of avoiding the embarrassment of having to explain oneself. It is no different than saying, “Christianity isn’t a religion but a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.” If, on the other hand, you have the sentiments of religion without understanding concepts, your “spirituality” is an empty vessel.

    Spirit activates, mind coordinates and inertia quantifies and conditions the human condition. Hence, “To isolate part of life and call it religion is to disintegrate life and to distort religion.” True spirituality a dynamic and progressive dance between light and dark, not a passive hiding in the light — which is fundamentally no different than cowering in the dark.

  27. Chantel
    March 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm #

    Great article :) I learned much from your wise words!

  28. chelse
    April 10, 2013 at 10:55 am #

    “Periodically, when we find an article about SBNR.org or the SBNR community that is materially incorrect or confusing, I make a comment in an effort to promote misunderstanding.”
    Did you really mean that? To promote MISunderstanding?

  29. Devin Jones
    May 20, 2013 at 9:08 pm #

    Hey,everyone. I’m returning to being SBNR after an unfortunate discovery about my former religion…Unitarian Universalism. Turns out, they’ve become too phony and people-pleasing for my interests. Can you share with me some of your beliefs?

  30. Devin Jones
    May 25, 2013 at 2:53 pm #

    It’s my perspective that many people who are not SBNR have so many misconceptions about us. For one, there are those of several faiths who say we can’t be devotional in our practices. We can and many of us are, they many of us who are though don’t look for it within the confines of organized religion. Not that we can’t.

  31. Devin Jones
    May 25, 2013 at 3:13 pm #

    Y know,I truly adore what this website has to say concerning the SBNR community: «There is no one single belief system…some SBNR people align with one teacher, ancient or modern, while others believe that no one teacher has all the answers….there are as many SBNR belief systems as there are SBNR people.» In my opinion,the one thing that unites us…and should unite us as au spiritual community is our shared identity as SBNR people.

  32. Stephen Fretwell
    February 15, 2014 at 9:37 pm #

    Truth can be usefully defined as all statements that, when you bet your life on any of them, you always win. Spirituality can be usefully defined as pertaining to unseen dimensions (e.g. heavens) in the universe that are inhabited by living beings which are generally not electro-magnetic, or visible to us or our currently invented sensors.

    The discovery of “dark matter,” while perhaps not equivalent with this sort of spirituality, does imply that there very well might be in this universe dimensions or objects corresponding to these definitions.

    Religious ought to be separated from religious. The latter describes behavior we apply to certain matters that we are very consistent and diligent with, which we engage in “religiously.” I take care of the poor religiously. I examine myself religiously. Religion is the adoption of dogmatic opinions with regard to the nature of the universe, and promoting behavior consistent with these opinions.

    Now, it appears to be true, according to scientific evidence, that there are living beings in our universe that inhabit other dimensions, non-electromagnetic and invisible. They are higher than we are in the hierarchy of intelligence and number of senses and various powers, much as we are higher than, say, earthworms. They are very involved with us, much as we hunt or raise earthworms, even though we are usually unaware of their works. Some are parasitic or predatory, some or symbiotic or pastoral. There is pretty good evidence that humans are, indeed, a symbiotic union of some sort of spiritual organism, and an organic (electro-magnetic) primate.

    To be spiritual but not Religious means, under these definitions, that one has chosen the philosophically approved life strategy of eschewing dogmatic opinions, in favor of scientific and other affirmed epistemological efforts to accurately acquire and use knowledge as close as possible to truths about the spiritual world and beings, including our own putative “souls.”

    This choice is approved philosophically because it has a remarkably successful track record for producing glorious, peaceful, prosperous living. While governments clearly do well in staying out of Religious areas, the more they respond to demonstrably “true” (beyond reasonable doubt) spiritual discoveries, the more they prosper. Calvin’s Switzerland is a most compelling example.

    I hope, Steve, that this site draws the politically significant part of our population that appear to have an inkling of all this. More governments adopting spirituality, while staying out of Religion, would surely make a better world.

  33. larry moore
    February 19, 2014 at 6:56 pm #

    “What is the difference between the words “wisdom” and “truth” in a practical sense?”

    Wisdom is a verb. Truth, a noun.

    Thus, Wisdom is Truth in action and Truth is Wisdom at rest.

    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

    Lar

  34. larry moore
    February 19, 2014 at 7:09 pm #

    “Does the term “Spiritual Truths” have a relevant meaning?”

    Only if the listener has a relevant understanding.

    For example: estoy intentando aprender espanyol is meaningless, unless the listener/reader understands Spanish (being relevant to the phrase).

    ———————-

    “Does it matter if we disagree on spiritual truth or wisdom?”

    Only to the one (in plural) that disagrees. Not to anyone else.

    ———————-

    “Is it possible for us to believe different truths but still develop a shared morality?”

    Yes, provided the differing truths have nothing to do with morality.

    ———————

    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

    Lar

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